<Begin Segment 8>

DG: Who were your playmates?

NS: What?

DG: Who were your playmates?

NS: There were people who lived in the neighborhood. There weren't too many my age, but I did go to -- on Saturdays, I did go to the YWCA, and there was a Japanese girl's group there and then I would stop in at the library and...

DG: Okay. Where did the YWCA meet?

NS: In the YWCA building where it is now on Fifth and Seneca.

DG: So you walked all the way from Thirteenth?

NS: I remember walking -- there weren't too many houses and buildings then and so we jaywalked through a path from Thirteenth and into -- I know -- we didn't have blocks then, we had roads through property, and we just kind of criss-crossed all the way to the Y.

DG: So who is we?

NS: There were -- well, we would pick up girls on the way. There would be, there were -- Let's see, on Weller I didn't have as many friends as when we moved up to Eighteenth and Lane. And when we moved up to Eighteenth and Lane, I think I was about ten years old, in the fourth grade and went to Washington School. And Rae Ota was there then, of the Otas, and they had lots of girls. Rae and I were in the same class through grammar school and high school and part of college until she got married.

DG: Now, was your grandmother living with you all this time?

NS: Yes. She lived until -- and she died when she was in her sixties, I think, when we were living on Eighteenth and Lane.

DG: So by the time you were ten in this period of time, you had four brothers by then.

NS: I don't know. [Laughs] I'd have to look at their birthdays back then.

DG: I think the last one was born in 19... oh, well, one was born in 1922; you said Bill was.

NS: Uh-huh.

<End Segment 8> - Copyright © 1998 Densho. All Rights Reserved.