<Begin Segment 32>

DG: Back to a little bit earlier time when you got started. There's some kind of a conference you went to in a nearby town called Filer, or something like that.

NS: I might have.

DG: Well, there's different organizations in the YWCA and one was this Girl Reserve that we've been talking about. But there was another group called the Matrons. Now, were you...?

NS: You mean, of the Japanese group?

DG: Right.

NS: Well, they were girls who were just married and had a group in Seattle, you mean.

DG: No, they were in camp. There was a meeting.

NS: Could be. Could be.

DG: Part of the agenda was like, talking about discipline. What kind of discipline problems were there?

NS: Well, it could have been probably with their children. It could be some of the Issei women?

DG: Well, there was one subject heading that said, "Issei Relationships." Why was that a problem?

NS: Because they had nothing to do. I mean, the Isseis didn't have anybody organizing them or taking an interest in their welfare or activities.

DG: So why didn't you start a YWCA group of Issei women?

NS: Ah, I just didn't.

DG: Well, another subject was, "Kibei Relationships."

NS: I know why, because they weren't Christians, all.

DG: Oh, okay.

NS: A lot of, you know, the Issei people were not Christians, and if we specified a Christian relationship, it didn't go well with the Buddhist, if they were Buddhist.

DG: And there wasn't any basic division because of Buddhism and Christianity, which is good.

NS: No.

<End Segment 32> - Copyright © 1998 Densho. All Rights Reserved.