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KS: We went in the first of August and by the third week in August, very good friends of ours were -- these were a Caucasian couple who felt very strongly about all of us who had to leave school and not be able to continue school -- worked very hard in trying to get us out of camp so we could get into school and make the fall quarter. See, this was August and school starts in September. So if they were gonna get us out, they had to get us out, you know, the first part of September. And when I say they were good friends, they were the people that we bought our home on Ravenna Boulevard from (after WW II).

DG: Oh.

KS: Bob and Helen O'Brien. And they.

DG: Were they working with a group at that time?

KS: Yes, they were working with a committee that ultimately became the Student Relocation...

DG: Was that the Friends?

KS: They worked with the Friends. And it became a, a regular agency of its own, just helping students that were in camp to relocate to different universities all over. But since they were friends of ours, we were the first two that got out of camp to go (when) we were accepted at the University of Utah.

DG: Did you think of going anyplace else at all?

KS: Well, we were also accepted at, Toru was accepted at Cornell and I was accepted at...

TS: Columbia.

KS: Oh, Columbia? And I was accepted at the Barnard School for Women. But that was in New York and we only had about three or $400 to our name and that wouldn't even get us to New York, let alone go to school there. But the money that we had, we thought might pay for tuition and train fare to Utah because that was close. So we got down to Utah and we were going to register for classes. I thought maybe I could go, too. I was pregnant at the time, so I thought maybe I could go to autumn quarter and then after I had the baby, maybe summer quarter and get my degree. But when we went to register, we found out we had to pay out of state tuition and the money that we had would only pay for Toru's tuition and not my tuition. [Laughs] So there went my dreams for finishing college. But we got Toru registered and we were living in a little hotel in Salt Lake City that was... and going out to eat and we were wondering how we were going to manage our money because it wasn't very much.

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