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DG: But, let's, let's start at the beginning, because you were telling me how you had to use his office and...

KS: Oh yeah.

DG: When you were involved.

KS: Oh yeah.

DG: What, what was going on?

KS: Actually the, in order to conduct these campaigns, there had to be literature that gets mailed to any and all citizenry. The whole state voted on it, and in order to inform the public of the law that we wanted to repeal, people had to know about it. And the JACL couldn't mail these, it was a political activity so... we brought all the flyers and literature to Toru's office and we had a committee that folded the pamphlets and put them in envelopes and mailed them. There were days when that's all we did in order to get the information out to the citizenry. I think it helped because in the first two campaigns we relied on a lot of newspaper and organization.

TS: Radio.

KS: Radio, we didn't have TV then.

DG: And it failed twice.

KS: And it failed twice because it didn't get to the people who actually voted.

DG: This is in what year are we talking about?

KS: '60...

TS: Two.

KS: '62.

DG: As late as.

TS: '64 and '66.

KS: And so it was.

DG: When you had started on, working on it when though?

TS: Oh.

KS: The first one was '60. '60 was it?

TS: '62.

KS: Was it?

TS: First.

KS: First election.

TS: Yeah, election.

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