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DG: So tell me what your thoughts were when you first met Toru.

KS: Oh, when I first met Toru, I thought he was just great. He was one of the first Nisei fellows that could carry on a conversation. We talked about, I'm sure, not just school, but about the goings on in the community and in the United States and in the world and I think we talked about some of the movies that we saw. It was just real interesting talking to him.

DG: Toru, you dated a lot of other women, you said, too. What was special about Kiyo?

TS: Well, boys when -- I was no different from any other boy. We all had our idea of our perfect girlfriend. Had to have good looks, personality, good conversationalist and most of all, know something about household work and... [Laughs] And some money in the family. [Laughs]

DG: Practical, too.

TS: As far as I was concerned, I felt that I met somebody in Kiyo was the perfect girl, except that she didn't have any money. [Laughs] But that was easy to forget.

DG: What was some of the first presents that you exchanged?

TS: Hmm, I brought some strawberries to her when she invited me for dinner, wasn't it?

KS: That's right.

DG: What'd you cook?

KS: Oh, we had steak and artichokes and baked potatoes and avocado and grapefruit salad, and that's the first time he had ever had an avocado with grapefruit salad and/or an artichoke.

DG: This is at the home where you were working?

KS: Where I was working. It was a wonderful dinner.

DG: Did you have a car?

KS: Yes.

TS: I had my dad's car. [Laughs]

DG: You had it a lot or...?

TS: Well, I had permission to use the car for dating and it was nothing for me to drive from Fife to Seattle and back. Usually I got home about two or three o'clock in the morning.

DG: So did you, did you use a telephone a lot?

TS: Not very much that I can remember.

KS: No, very little I would say 'cause telephone calls cost money, too. Wrote letters in the summer when...

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