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DG: Well how did camp impact your life?

KS: Actually we were there such a short time. Except for saying that it was a rather unpleasant necessary experience. It really, I don't think it set us back or discouraged us in any way.

DG: We're talking about the material aspect. You didn't lose a lot.

KS: No. We, before we went into camp, we didn't have very much.

TS: I think as far as we were concerned and as far as most people were concerned, they were living from day to day, and managing to get by some way and wondering how they're gonna get by and manage to get by and after all time does pass, months and years and you wonder how you got by. You even forget how you managed to pay your debts, but we did get through.

DG: But you were, might have been in a position to advise people. Did you recall?

TS: Not that I remember especially.

KS: Not in Salt Lake. He was in school studying. And I did work in Salt Lake. I was fortunate to get a job with the U&I Sugar Company and this was a rather... how should I put it? After Toru finished his schooling, he had to study for the bar exam. And my little son David and I couldn't help him with his studies and it just cost too much to live in Salt Lake so we, David and I went to live with his parents in Idaho and Toru stayed in Salt Lake just to study for the bar exam which was about a month. We left in May and the bar exam...

DG: '45?

KS: In '45? No, '44 it was. Beg your pardon. In '44 and he stayed in Salt Lake to study. I went and took David up to live with his folks and then as soon as Toru took his bar exam, he came up to Idaho also. His folks, his father at that time was the executive for a large company that was growing apples. They must have had about 200 acres of apples.

TS: Six hundred acres.

KS: Six hundred, excuse me.

TS: Of apples and pears.

DG: Where, where?

KS: In Idaho, Mesa, Idaho.

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