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DG: So, back to the JACL now. That was a loyalty group

TS: Uh-huh.

DG: So did you have some meetings right after Pearl Harbor, or before, or anytime around there that you remember?

TS: I don't remember much about those meetings. Very few meetings.

DG: But why did you go then to the National Conference?

TS: Because the National was asking delegates from each chapter and the Puyallup Valley chapter, they asked me to join, to go down too...

DG: What did you think you were going to go down for?

TS: On the way down we were talking about raising hell about being evacuated, and demanding that the military authorities declare emergency and assume control of all civilians so that it wouldn't be necessary for us to evacuate.

DG: Did you know Gordon Hirabayashi at that time from the U?

TS: Yes.

DG: Were you aware of what he was doing?

TS: No.

KS: He wasn't at that time. It was when they had the exclusion order, not the exclusion, the...

TS: Curfew.

KS Curfew. You couldn't get out.

DG: When was the curfew started?

KS: I think about first part of March. You couldn't be out on the street after eight o'clock .

TS: February or March.

KS: Last of February or first of March. Gordon would know because he defied it. He was just a student at the University and so it was late and he wanted to go down to the Ave and get a bite to eat. He's going to go down there and get a bite to... it was almost as simple as that. And then when he... because as an American citizen, that was a real asinine thing to even comply with let alone...

DG: But you complied without any problem?

TS: Well, sure. Because in order to get married in Tacoma, she had to get permission to drive.

KS: Travel.

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