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DG: Now, let's go back just a little bit from Camp Harmony, you went to Tule Lake. So, you went how?

FN: We went by train. And that was quite a long ride. So I actually like my daughter, my youngest daughter, she just cried all the time. I had to go into the bathroom and carry her for so long, I never forget that. [Laughs]

DG: Yeah.

FN: Well, as I mentioned, we had a whole a car, what they call a car. But, what, there was only about maybe twenty-five or so Jap, Niseis that went from here to Tule. From, I mean Camp Harmony to Tule. So then, there's quite a few white Caucasians they, they came and said, "What are these Japs allowed this whole car while the rest of us are so crowded back there, we don't even have a place to sit down," and they kept just ranting and raving and, and. So then the WRA man went back there and he said, "You just keep quiet..." He quieted them down all right, but that was kind of an odd incident. One of the, among, among the very first that we, we had ever encountered. So... that, that was --

DG: Did you, did you know what was happening in the war at that time? What was in the headlines as far as the war was concerned, was Japan -- wasn't Japan sort of winning?

FN: Yeah, yeah they were in a way. And then also you remember they're thinking they might drop a bomb on Seattle or, and then we, we couldn't, we, we didn't, we couldn't go out. We couldn't go outside after eight o'clock or something. We had to stay at home and all that kind of thing. And they were afraid that. I, I suppose they're afraid we were going to signal or something or other. But... that I remember in Oregon, at Oregon they had a incident. But outside of that I don't recall too much. But, but, we, but it was. I don't know how long we, we were told we couldn't leave after eight o'clock but it was quite a while. Do you remember that?

DG: No.

FN: Or were you here? You weren't in Seattle.

DG: We weren't.

FN: Oh you weren't.

DG: In Seattle.

FN: Yeah, we were restricted. We used to go play cards a lot with friends. And we didn't dare to leave the house.

DG: Oh that's right. You were telling me about how the, you had a lot of people in and out and you used to.

FN: Yeah, we used to have parties here and there. But it, it was friends that we've had for years, doctor, Dr. Nakamura and his wife. As a matter of fact Dr. Nakamura have you, you, you haven't interviewed him.

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