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FN: By that time though, my brother, my brother-in-law was recovered quite a bit from his, you know.

DG: Okay.

FN: Uh-huh, his troubles so...

DG: Oh, so he made a lot of --

FN: He, he was there so he was able to, to help too. So, but he wasn't good at going out and selling things or anything. He, he had nothing to do with it. He might have worked a little bit in the greenhouse, but very little.

DG: And so that's how Hiram got started in selling the...

FN: Yeah, so Hiram came to help, yeah.

DG: To the greenhouses and things.

FN: And then the Noji side of the family, see he was the only brother, the sister was still in Japan and I hadn't had contact with her for quite a number of years. So, so I don't know their, really their family history at all.

DG: So what did you tell your kids, that was happening?

FN: Do what?

DG: What did you tell your children?

FN: Well actually Betty must have been what, ten-years old and, Herb was six, six I guess. No he --

DG: Right, he was about six or so.

FN: 'Bout six-years old. And Arlene was just little, about two years old and you know she.

DG: So what did you have to do to get ready to take the kids to camp?

FN: How did I get ready? [Laughs] I don't know. That part of it I don't know we just --

DG: I guess you said that Helen helped you quite a bit.

FN: Yeah Helen, Helen.

DG: Helping, helping with the kids. And then you went to Puyallup first.

FN: Yeah, we went to Puyallup.

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