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TL: Do you have any questions, other kinds of questions for each other? Maybe new things that you're thinking about as a result of the information and the exchanges you've had here?

KN: Only thing I can think of is, I didn't bring my ten-year-old daughter. And now I wish I would have brought her. She didn't want to come because, I just assumed there was going to be a lot of lectures and stuff and she'd just get bored. But I was amazed at the number of kids that are here, and she would have really enjoyed this. Plus all of our cousins came then, we didn't even know they were coming from California and Portland. And we met 'em here, and so she would have seen all of her cousins. So, I don't know, when I get back it's gonna be... maybe I can bring her on a future pilgrimage. That's the only thing that I'm thinking about is, like, when I go back to Seattle and relay this story.

SN: Well, I just think about, especially when we were listening yesterday to the Peruvian Japanese and how much more there is still to be done, and how... I'm a very private, "Don't get involved" kind of guy. And I think about, I need to think of something that I can do to start seeing that... a lot of these things are still going on, and there's still reparation that hasn't been, been finished.

HN: I don't know. I guess my only thought is, it would have been nice if Dad were here... and be able to get that part of the story. And maybe he would have been able to, at least in a small way, kind of maybe put this chapter behind him a little bit. That might have been helpful.

YN: For my part, I want to thank my sons for coming to support me here. And I really appreciate the fact that we been able to be together these days, and for them to experience partly what I and my husband went through. This, for me, is a kind of a closure for me. But I'm very glad I came.

TL: What do you -- are there other thoughts that you'll take away from this pilgrimage? For those who didn't come along, how do you suppose you'll talk about it to them?

SN: I'll certainly encourage my friends to come on one, because I don't think I know of anyone else who has come on these. So yeah, I'll definitely be doing that.

KN: I think I was in one of the groups, the intergenerational group, and Mr. Kiyoto, the author of The Kibei, he was so elegant. [Ed. note: Narrator is referring to "Mr. Kiyota," who is author of Beyond Loyalty: The story of a Kibei] And we bought the book. So I think I'd like to read that book, and I think I'd get a better sense of what, like, Dad, the Kibeis were, and then all the Kibeis went through.

HN: I don't know, for me it's been kind a reconnection again. I think when I was younger in high school and college, I spent a lot more time reading and trying to put all this stuff into place. And then I got busy, I guess. [Laughs] Career and family and all that kind of stuff, and hadn't spent very much time being very active or just continuing to educate myself on the story. And so now, for me it was kind of nice coming here and reconnecting again, and expanding that and filling in a lotta things, and... just sort of rekindling that interest again. So, I think I'd be really interested in coming back again, and like Stan was saying, probably any of my friends who are interested in talking about it, and really encouraging them to do it. I think it's really a worthwhile thing to do.

KN: I think one thing for me -- and I mentioned about growing up and being angry, and not knowing why you're angry. And coming here and hearing all these stories, and seeing this place, and, "What is Tule Lake" and all, being born here... I think maybe some of that anger goes away, will go away, just because you find out what it is. It's not a mystery anymore. It's not... so, I think that was helpful.

YN: Well, for my part, I have a collection that I have been accumulating of all the books that been out about the camp, and I have it all in a row there. I bought this for you, hoping that one day you'll ask me, "Can I read that book?" And so my dearest wish is that, when you have time, will you take home some of the books and start reading for me? That is my wish.

Sons: Definitely.

TL: Well, thank you so much for participating in this.

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