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DG: So there's a segment of the so-called Kibei, which means that you were educated in Japan, but born here, were even more loyal and understood America maybe.

GF: They're more loyal to the Japan?

DG: To the United States.

GF: Well, some of these Kibeis, they felt, "Why in the hell stay in America for?"

DG: Now, you're talking about the other half.

GF: The other people, yeah. And how they were educated over there, I don't know. But a lot of them were educated when they were small when they were in the first grade. Some were taken when they were little babies. Now, they're Japanese. I don't care what you say because they were brought up in Japanese atmosphere all the way through. They're the people probably --

DG: Like your brother, your little brother.

GF: Yeah. They were there, but, I guess...

DG: Because of your influence maybe.

GF: I don't know if my influence or what it is, but they didn't feel like going back.

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