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DH: So let's see. So soon... how long were you at Manzanar?

KN: Eleven months.

DH: Eleven months, and then you were transferred to Minidoka.

IN: Uh-huh.

KN: We asked to be transferred to be close to the Northwest people.

DH: And that was after the riot then, too.

IN: Yeah, almost directly after the riot.

DH: So compare the camps. What was better or worse?

KN: Well, Minidoka -- did we have sand storm? I can't remember about sand storm.

IN: No, it was pretty well settled about that time.

KN: It was -- well, when it got cold and did it rain? I remember muddy, but we weren't in camp that long so I can't really say.

DH: Yeah.

KN: But it was quite different. Manzanar was quite level where Minidoka was more kind of on the slant hill. Did you think it was like that?

IN: Well, where Manzanar had mountain ranges, the Sierras Nevadas were right close by, and the soil was mostly sandy whereas in Minidoka, we had a canal where the water just like a river running by, and the soil was more muddy, clayish. And so it was, in that respect it was different.

DH: Was it more comfortable being around other people from the Northwest, though, compared to Manzanar, which was populated a lot by Californians?

KN: Uh-huh, but we made lots of friends and they were very friendly and so I didn't mind it.

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