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DG: And so he gathered the oysters and then worked for MacGowan, wasn't it?

RM: Yeah, Johnson MacGowan.

DG: But at the same time he was always thinking about owning his own business.

RM: Yeah, getting into his own. He always told me, "Never work for somebody, just get on your own."

DG: And then you have another sister.

RM: Yeah, I have two sisters, right.

DG: Jane.

RM: Jane.

DG: Was she born out there also?

RM: No. I think she was born on -- they had to move off the oyster station because my older sister had to start school so they moved to the land.

DG: And that's when you moved to Nahcotta?

RM: Yeah.

DG: So do you remember some of the daily things by then? How old would you have been then, by the time you moved?

RM: Well, let's see...

DG: Four or so, huh?

RM: Yeah, I would say about four or five.

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