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DG: Well, your nephew tells me that his father was involved, his father George Fujii.

RM: Yeah.

DG: Okay. And I know you're friends with Vern Hayes now, but I understand that some things happened with him back then that he even threatened him with a gun and so forth at one time. Is that true?

RM: Who threatened who?

DG: Well, Vern Hayes. Wasn't he kind of -- you told me a little bit about him.

RM: Yeah, he was a real outgoing person. Yeah.

DG: You used a few stronger words than that.

RM: Maybe I did.

DG: But he eventually kind of what, made peace? So he was trying to get the oyster business away from you guys too at one time.

RM: Well, maybe he did.

DG: Or part of the contingent that was resisting.

RM: By pretending to be a friend of ours, but it's hard to figure out what they was thinking about.

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