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CC: Yeah, we'll talk more about incarceration, but we did want, I did want to talk to you a little bit about his experience. So which camp was he in?

MM: Which what?

CC: Which camp was he in?

MM: Oh, Tule Lake.

CC: Tule Lake? And he was there for the whole time, just in Tule Lake?

MM: No, I don't really know. Because I think, I was so little, and they never talked about it, really. But I'm not sure, and you probably know, Caitlin, and because you've done... but I think they were put in some other place and then they were moved to Tule Lake just right after, not long after they were removed from their homes.

CC: Yeah, I know we've talked a little bit before about how you think the camp experience really affected him. So do you want to kind of talk about, you were basically born right before the camps, so you don't know much about what he was like before the camps, but do you have an impression of how that affected his personality in his later life?

MM: Well, I think he was fine for a while, I just think that physically it just didn't do him any good. And he might have been bitter about it, I'm not really sure. He didn't want to talk about it. I did ask him at one point, when I was older, I asked him how he felt about having been in camp. Well, first of all, he didn't want to really talk about it. He said it's better to just go on and live your life. But then any time there was something on the news or a book that would come out, he wanted me to read about it, so it did affect him. It was just interesting that way that he didn't really want to talk about it. And I can't remember, there's something else that's in the back of my mind that I can't remember what he said about it. Sorry it's not there now.

CC: If you remember you can let us know.

MM: Okay.

CC: I mean, is there anything else you want to talk about him before we move on to your mom?

MM: I can't think of anything.

CC: All right.

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