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TI: That seems a little, I always have to realize that things have changed, but I'm a parent and seems like that's pretty extreme to leave a one-year-old out in the freezing cold until they turn blue.

RK: Well, that's the way I was, that's the way my uncles tell me.

TI: And when they tell that story, is it like a funny story, or how did they tell that story?

RK: Well, it was more like, "You were too hard headed as a little guy."

TI: Oh, okay. So it's almost like, "From a very early age, we knew that you were hard headed."

RK: I just wanted to do what I felt like doing.

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