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JS: But I do have one interesting story. I came from Hawaii, and Hawaii had just been made a state in '59, I got there to Washington in '60. And I had long hair and I had a couple pair of bell bottoms, which in those days, nobody was wearing that. Everybody wore button down shirts and the pants with the little belt in the back and stuff like that, short hair. Anyway, I was registering in the ad building there, and I walked out of the ad building and these two guys were standing over there, they were wearing letterman's jackets. And he said, "Hey, you, come here." I said, "Me?" They said, "Yeah, come here." I walked over there and they said, "You want to turn out for crew?" And I said, "What's crew?" I'm a surfer. [Laughs] And I said, no, I said, "Why me?" They said, "Well, you see that line on the wall over there on the ad building?" "Yeah." He said, "You walked across that and you were above the line, and so you can turn out for crew," so I wound up turning out for crew, a sport that I knew nothing about.

TI: Oh, yeah, so crew was, as you know, was UW's major sport.

JS: Well, football was the major sport.

TI: But crew, too, right? I mean, crew was big.

JS: Well, crew was big, but it was, on the crew we bought our own uniforms. We had the Conibear Shellhouse down there. But the football team had it during football season.

TI: Jim Owens, was Jim Owens there?

JS: Yeah, Jim Owens. Fil Leanderson was the crew coach, freshman year was Johnny Bissett.

TI: We could talk Husky stuff all day, but by any chance, have you read the book The Boys in the Boat?

JS: Oh, yeah. In fact, I've met most of them.

TI: Really?

JS: Well, they were '36, and the would come back to the...

TI: Oh, the crew to kind of just inspire you guys? I mean, yeah. After the interview I'll tell you some stories about that, but we'll keep going.

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