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BY: And what did you do then after you graduated from Franklin?

JK: I went on to the University of Washington.

BY: And what did you study?

JK: Nursing.

BY: And did you graduate, did you get a nursing degree then?

JK: Yeah, I did.

BY: And during those college years, what kinds of, besides going to school and studying, what kinds of activities were you involved in, do you recall?

JK: Well, I think not a lot of activities, because I guess it was traveling back and forth that took so long that I didn't spend that much time.

BY: And do you recall, did you take the bus, is that how you would get to and from?

JK: Yes.

BY: So you didn't live in the dorms, you lived at home?

JK: Uh-huh.

BY: And what made you decide to study nursing?

JK: Well, I think it was because... I was so idealistic at the time about taking care of other people or helping other people, that kind of sense of it.

BY: Did you know anyone who was a nurse, who was a role model for you?

JK: Well, I had an auntie that was a nurse at one point, and so I kind of watched her as she came and went from our house off and on. She'd talk about different things.

BY: Was this the auntie whose husband was a doctor?

JK: No, different one.

BY: Okay. So thinking back to Seattle, living in Seattle after the war, do you recall any experiences with prejudice or discrimination that you or any member of your family endured?

JK: You know, there wasn't really blatant discrimination against me, but it was subtle sometimes, I think, and you sensed something that you didn't exactly call it racism. It was just, you just knew that there was, you sensed something, and so you just kind of stayed away from people like that.

BY: Do you recall any particular incident where you felt like, oh, this doesn't feel good?

JK: Not that I can recall, but I think I did.

BY: Okay.

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