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BY: Alright, so do you remember how long your family lived in Montana before they returned to Seattle?

JK: Gee, I don't remember. It was like three or four years, I think.

BY: Okay, and so when you... so three or four years, so it must have been around 1946. So after the war, you came back to Seattle, and where did you live?

JK: You mean when I came back here?

BY: Yes.

JK: Well, I had an auntie who lived, she had a big house and her husband was a doctor. So they were pretty well-off compared to a lot of other Japanese families, and so we lived with them for at least a year and a half or two years because it was such that we didn't have a lot of money, so they took us in.

BY: And at that time, then, when you came back to Seattle, you said that your father started an insurance agency. Did he do that right away or was that a little later?

JK: Well, insurance, more real estate.

BY: Oh, real estate.

JK: He had a really good hakujin friend that he met through the Episcopal church who helped him get set up to take the, to study for the real estate exam and to help get his license and stuff like that. So he was really lucky to have someone to help him.

BY: And do you know the name of that friend's name who helped him?

JK: I don't.

BY: But he had met him through Saint Peter's Episcopal Church, is that right? Or is it a different...

JK: I think so. I'm not positive, but I think so.

BY: Okay. And so was the church an important part of your family's life?

JK: Oh, yeah, it was.

BY: Do you recall what kinds of things you did, what kinds of church activities you participated in?

JK: Well, we went to church every Sunday, and usually maybe once during that week, they had some kind of activity.

BY: And they would do those?

JK: Uh-huh.

BY: And were you as a child involved in youth group or sports or anything like that at the church?

JK: Well, it was a tiny church, so there were maybe like between a half a dozen to eight kids. So it wasn't like there were a lot of kids there. So we didn't really have organized anything.

BY: And so you lived with your relatives for a while. Do you recall when it was that you moved out and then where did you move to?

JK: Well, my auntie, her husband was a doctor, so they had a home on Beacon Hill. And we lived, we found a house on Beacon Hill about a mile and a half away. And we probably stayed with him for about a couple years and then we moved to our own house.

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