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BY: And I want to ask you a little bit about growing up in Aino, in Hyogo-ken. So describe your home there. What was your house like in the farm? What was it like?

SN: My family raised rice and wheat, and a few vegetables. And usually our area, which is Aino area, the rice is excellent and usually shipped for sake wine. So mostly rice for sake is more expensive, so we had the very nice rice for sake.

BY: And can you tell me about the house you grew up in? What was your house like?

SN: Well, the old house was a straw roof, and when my eldest brother Sakuo became a, well, village president, then the city representative and so forth, so he made, also built a new house. So I have a picture in my room, but real nice house.

BY: But the house you grew up in had a straw roof? It was an old-fashioned Japanese...

SN: Old house, not a new one. [Laughs]

BY: So when you were a child, what would you do on a typical day?

SN: Well, running around the farm and doing fishing. Just very normal country boys.

BY: Did you have to work in the fields, too, or not?

SN: Not much. [Laughs]

BY: Okay, all right.

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