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BY: So when did you leave Mosier?

MK: We left about Mother's Day, and a big long train into the Hood River. But Hood River people had already gone to Portland, some of them.

BY: So did you go on a different train?

MK: So we thought we would end up in Portland racetrack, you know. But no, we rode a big long train and changed trains in Portland and rode on that. They used to have fancy Union Pacific, California trains, it was very fancy at that time. So we ended up in Pinedale, so we got on that special train while the Hood River people ended up in the racetrack, Portland Meadows. And when we got on that train, it was a very fancy train. They had Negro porters that bowed to you and gave you a cloth napkin. Anyhow, we were treated to a very, very fancy train, and we ended up in Pinedale. But then they gave us fancy dinners, you know, like ice cream. Oh, that was great, that was fun.

TI: I asked, did the porters know what was happening to the Japanese?

MK: I think so. Or maybe not, I don't know, but they treated us real fancy-like. But at night, we had to close the blinds and stop, and let the other trains pass.

TI: And I was asking, how many Japanese were on this fancy train?

BY: Yeah, because I don't know that they were on the same train as the...

TI: Sounds like a different one.

BY: Yeah, it does. So maybe we can ask that.

MK: There were quite a few, but I don't remember.

BY: Because that's really different from what my dad remembers.

MK: The Dalles, Rowena, all over.

BY: Maybe ask her if the Hood River people were on the train.

TI: Go ahead and ask the question so...

BY: Oh, okay. So were Hood River people on the train?

MK: I think there was.

BY: We might be able to find that out some way. And you don't remember at all? What do you remember about that train trip, Frances?

MK: When we got to Sacramento, California, that's the first time I saw palm trees. I thought, "Oh, my goodness." [Laughs] "We're in the tropics."

BY: [Addressing FN] So you don't remember anything about that train trip?

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