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TI: So let's talk a little bit about, we talked about your father and mother. Let's talk about your siblings. So you mentioned you were born in 1925. Tell me about your other siblings in the order of their birth.

TH: My brother was the eldest.

TI: And his name was?

TH: Masao, born in 1920. When he was small, being an only boy, and spoiled, too. [Laughs] but I don't remember much about it. Although my mother's whole desire was for him to go to college, which he did.

TI: And then after Masao...

TH: Was Yaeko, a sister, 1922.

TI: Okay. And so she was two years younger than your brother, but about three years older than you?

TH: Yes.

TI: And I should mention, too, that your mother came to the United States about the same time, around maybe (1918)?

TH: I think she also was seventeen or eighteen years old.

TI: Yeah. And when she came, around (1918), so it sounds like right away she started raising a family, having children.

TH: Right.

TI: Good.

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