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TI: So I want to now, earlier you talked about Collins Playfield and things like that. And we've spent a lot of time talking about sports before the war and how you participated. Talk about where you would play sports, because you were a pretty good athlete. So let's start with, like, Collins Playfield. What kind of things did you do at Collins?

VI: Well, basically, Collins Playfield was known for basketball. And then you had different leagues depending on age, weight, height. So that all the things that Collins Playfield had the advantage was that usually Orientals were much more developed when they were young than the other white Caucasian kids. So Collins Playfield always had winning teams in the city.

TI: For the younger groups, or all the way through?

VI: All the way through. Because from the playfield may go up to the high school or something. So Gene Boyd was the director, and he was very good to all the... and very knowledgeable. So Collins Playfield was basically basketball. We used to play a little football, and I knew some of the people from the Green Lake area that we did judo with. And there was a kid named Tamura which was very good. So I got together with him for him to have a football team, and then I'll get a football team, and we'd play football on the Dugdale field.

TI: Tell me, is that on Fourteenth or Twelfth?

VI: It's on Thirteenth from Yesler to Fir, I think that one whole block. It was kind of a long time ago, playfield.

TI: So was that the location where Auntie Martha had her shop after the war? Wasn't that Thirteenth and Fir, right there?

VI: Right. But Auntie Martha had her shop on Twelfth Avenue.

TI: Okay, on Twelfth.

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