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VY: Okay, so then you ended up in Colorado, who was there with you?

FN: So we had a relatively large family, so in our barrack we had two apartments, and my grandfather, my mother, and then there were five children. So my mother had a lot to handle.

VY: How about your mother's siblings? Did they have to go to a camp?

FN: They also went to camp, but her siblings were all living in Stockton, and so they went to separate camps. Her brother, who was right below her, he had graduated from Cal, and was Phi Beta Kappa at Cal, and he wanted to become a doctor. And so he applied to UCSF, but he could not get in. And so he tried different places, and he was accepted to a small school in, I think it's Lincoln, Nebraska, Creighton, and he went to medical school there. And so right before the war, he had graduated, and he didn't want to return to Livingston because he wanted to go to a bigger community. So he went back to Stockton, and he established his practice there. He was just getting started, and the war started. So my uncle and his brother, the brother was still unmarried, and the sister, who was married, all went to Rohwer in Arkansas. He went with the people of Stockton to Rohwer.

VY: So your mother's family went to Rohwer, and...

FN: She went to Livingston.

VY: She went to Livingston and then Amache.

FN: Right, so we were not in the same camp.

VY: Not in the same camp. So the only family support your mom had in camp was with, from your grandfather?

FN: My grandfather, and also her relatives. Her relatives were very close to her, and there were two families, the Okudas and the Kimuras, and they were both cousins of hers, so they helped a lot.

VY: I see, they were in the same camp.

FN: Right. So we were with them.

VY: Did they also have children?

FN: Oh, yes.

VY: Do you remember playing with them?

FN: Well, they were a little bit older than we were, but they were friends of ours. And they've remained friends always. In fact, I see Esther Okuda, she was in El Cerrito, and we go to the same church. I still see her, she is in her nineties, I think she is ninety-seven. And we still get together, we have a group of older women who are craftspeople. In fact, today, I had to leave early from church because we had our craft group, and Esther came and she made cards, gift cards. So we're still very close.

VY: That's great, you've stayed in touch all these years.

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