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Title: Fred Matsumura Interview
Narrator: Fred Matsumura
Interviewers: Tom Ikeda (primary), Beverly Kashino (secondary)
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Date: July 2, 1998
Densho ID: denshovh-mfred-01-0034

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TI: Do you have anything else, Bev?

BK: Well, I guess. Well, just, I don't know, to lighten up, perhaps. [Laughs] I don't know. Are there other stories or anecdotes in regard to you and my dad, that you recall, come to mind? You guys were always yucking it up at all these reunions. In the stockade, or outside of it....

FM: In the stockade. Yeah, well.

BK: Or outside of it, or during battle, or while you were in the service?

FM: Well, we always -- whenever we go to battle, one man don't decide what we're gonna do. He get the orders, and he'll always come to me and we talk about it, say, "This is the way Kubota wants to do it. What do you think?" I say, "Yeah, that's fine." And so we go along and we talk to our men, and tell 'em that this is the way that the thing gonna be run, how we going into combat. I'll tell you, that Kash is just such a nice guy. Yeah, he's big, he's tough, and he's so gentle. Really, I never see him get mad at the troops. Get mad at the lieutenants, raise hell like that, but, to the troops, well, he never raise his voice. I'm the guy doing all the raising, raising hell.

TI: You've been coming to a lot of these reunions over the years, and I guess this is the first one that your father hasn't been at. Does it, does this reunion for you seem different, because the two of you were so close?

FM: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. It really, it really is a, makes a lot of difference without Kash.

TI: Yeah. Okay.

FM: He's, like I say, he's one of a kind. Even when we were in training you know, he receive letters from Louise, your mom, all the time, see? Sometime he get four or five letters, they all come together. And he don't have any letter for a few days, say, "Goddarn it, how come she's not writing to me?" Then he get a bunch of 'em. He's always talking about Louise, what she's doing and all that. So I feel as though I knew Louise from way back.

BK: Did he share his goodies with you?

FM: Oh, yeah. Whenever he get goodies, why...

BK: [Laughs] My mom used to send all these omiyage, that kind of stuff...

FM: Yeah. Oh, yeah.

BK: And so he'd say later, "Oh, yeah, I kinda' shared 'em with my friends."

FM: Yeah.

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