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Title: Fred Matsumura Interview
Narrator: Fred Matsumura
Interviewers: Tom Ikeda (primary), Beverly Kashino (secondary)
Location: Honolulu, Hawaii
Date: July 2, 1998
Densho ID: denshovh-mfred-01-0003

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TI: When you think back to Molokai, growing up, what's your fondest memory of Molokai?

FM: Oh, I don't know. We had some good times out there, yeah. People are great out there, yeah.

TI: Are the people in Molokai, do they seem different than, say, the people in Honolulu or some of the other islands? Can you tell a Molokai person by how they act?

FM: No, you can't tell that. But since the island is so small, we just about knew every family in that area. So the city that I stayed, we know just about everybody there. That's why you can't do anything wrong out there, because everybody find out. [Laughs]

TI: Do you remember instances when someone did something wrong -- or say one of you or one of your siblings, if they did something wrong, or got in trouble, what would happen?

FM: Well, the thing is that, we didn't get into too much trouble. [Laughs] We sort of, pretty good kids, you know.

TI: But the whole community was kind of watching, so if you did something wrong, then it would get back to your parents?

FM: Yes, that's right.

TI: That's interesting.

BK: In terms of, I guess a socioeconomic level, it sounds like in talking to some other people who've lived in Hawaii, generally, working on the plantations was really difficult, because the pay was very poor and so forth. So it sounds like because your father was in a different occupation, then even though you had lots of kids, I mean... were you financially a lot better off than perhaps other people with jobs on the plantations?

FM: No, I don't think so.

BK: No?

FM: No.

BK: Not necessarily.

FM: Everybody has just about the same wage scale out there.

BK: Even relative to the plantations, huh?

FM: Uh-huh. Oh, yeah.

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