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BN: Now, as the war goes on, was there discussion amongst, that you remember with your parents about leaving camp?

WS: Yeah, we wanted to leave. And my uncle Jimmy had been living in Japan with his brother and mother, he wanted to go back to Japan, so he did go back to Japan. And we wanted to get out of camp, so we were able to go to Des Moines, I guess. And we got our car out of storage and we drove to Salt Lake and then Denver, and we lived in Des Moines.

BN: Yeah, so somehow you were able to get the car back.

WS: Yeah.

BN: Do you know what, I mean, usually, to be able to leave, you had to have, like a job. Did your father or mother have a job already lined up?

WS: I don't know how they... they had a, what do you call it in Des Moines, a place where we can go, what do you call that place?

BN: Oh, the hostels?

WS: Hostels, yeah.

BN: Yeah, I definitely want to ask you about that. So you don't know if they had a job already lined up?

WS: Well, they would line up jobs for people.

BN: Yeah, once they were in the hostel. And then before we go there, you also had another passenger in your car with you, right, when you left? Can you tell us a little about that?

WS: Yeah, it was a teacher there. And we got to know him real well, what was his name anyway? I can't remember his name.

BN: Louis Frizzell.

WS: Yeah, Louis Frizzell.

BN: And did you know him from before?

WS: Just from camp. He was a teacher, and he wanted to be in that Oklahoma!, I guess. He rode out there with us.

BN: Yeah, because he was, wanted to be an actor, performer.

WS: Yeah, performer.

BN: Did you have him as a teacher?

WS: Pardon?

BN: Did you have him as a teacher?

WS: I don't remember.

BN: Okay, he just rode with you.

WS: Yeah.

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