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BN: So they get married, and then you said you were, where were you born?

WS: 1929.

BN: And where?

WS: Pasadena.

BN: And then did you have siblings?

WS: I had a brother that was a year and a half older. He was born December '27, I think.

BN: And that would have been '27?

WS: Right.

BN: And then do you have memories of Pasadena, or did you grow up...

WS: No.

BN: Because I know you moved to Terminal Island later.

WS: I think we lived in Long Beach for a little bit, and then Los Angeles on Trinity Street and then Terminal Island.

BN: What did your father do at that point prior to Terminal Island?

WS: Prior to Terminal Island he worked, his friend Hideo Date had a brother who had a flower shop, I think. And those two would, I mean, my father and this Hideo would work picking fruits and stuff in Central California. Let's see... so I don't know why they went to Terminal Island, I think my great uncle had a barge, and there was cannery work.

BN: Great uncle on which side? Is this on your dad's side?

WS: I don't know.

BN: But you already had some family in Terminal Island, that they were joining. And then what did your dad do on Terminal Island?

WS: He worked for this great-uncle.

BN: Doing what kind of work?

WS: Well, he drove the truck to sell the fish in Central California and so forth, dried fish.

BN: And the great-uncle had a fishing boat?

WS: Had a barge.

BN: He had a barge.

WS: And a small fishing boat. I don't know whether he bought fish. But they cleaned it, salt it and dry it.

BN: And then what about your mother?

WS: Mother worked in a cannery. That was during the Depression.

BN: Now, did you live among the large Japanese community?

WS: No.

BN: You lived away from them?

WS: That was the Terminal side.

BN: And what kind of home did you live in?

WS: Well, that's the Depression, so we were lucky we had a big house. We had a huge house. So their friends would come on the weekend and they'd have parties.

BN: How did you come to have such a big house?

WS: I don't know, I guess Depression, and it was available and we rented it.

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