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Title: Tokio Yamane Interview
Narrator: Tokio Yamane
Interviewers: Sachiko Takita-Ishii, Yoko Murakawa, Noriko Kawakami
Location: Japan
Date: May 23, 2004
Densho ID: denshovh-ytokio-01-0007

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[Translated from Japanese]

I2: Then, you were confined in the bullpen for two weeks. November 5th...

TY: Yes. We went there on the 5th, and the tent was already up. There were three makeshift beds and a blanket on the ground. We saw soldiers there. The tent was surrounded by barbed wire fences. Soldiers with firearms guarded it on all four corners as well.

I1: No one in the tent? Only three of you?

TY: They were outside the tent.

I1: Did you three talk about anything in the tent?

TY: The only topic we discussed was how to die as a Japanese person with dignity. We didn't know what would happen the next morning.

I1: Did you get to know more about what happened in the motor pool area?

I2: It must be at the stockade...

I1: Is it when you went to the stockade?

TY: I didn't know anything about what happened in the motor pool at the time. I didn't know anything. I didn't know where the warehouse was, and met Kobayashi there for the first time. I had no idea.

I2: Mr. Kobayashi was injured. He must have been lying in the bed all the time.

TY: Kobayashi kept saying, "My head hurts." He was physically strong and didn't wear out that easily. Fortunately, one week passed, and it was really cold there. It stopped bleeding rather quickly. It was probably infected. He said, "There is something wrong with my head" and asked me to check it. I found something yellow oozing out. I pushed it with my finger and a lump popped out from his head. It was a chunk of pus. He said he felt better after that.

I2: That was pus.

TY: It was a chunk of pus.

I2: His skull must have been fractured.

TY: I'm not sure. If his skull had been fractured, I would assume it would have been more serious like continuous bleeding or death at the end in the stockade. But it didn't happen at all.

I2: It was an external injury.

TY: He kept complaining something was wrong with his head though.

I2: Where is Tom Kobayashi from?

TY: I don't know. He must have been from Los Angeles or somewhere.

I2: While you were there in the bullpen, did you have guns pointed at you twenty-four hours a day?

TY: We were escorted to the cafeteria for breakfast, lunch and dinner by an MP. We had meals with an MP. We had a tray and helped ourselves, and sat down with the soldiers to eat.

I2: Where was the bullpen located? Was the bullpen near the stockade? Where was it? Was that inside the stockade? Where was it?

TY: It was somewhere else, but I don't remember clearly. I don't remember seeing any buildings nearby.

I2: Was there only one tent?

TY: Only one tent. We walked about three to four minutes for meals. To go to the cafeteria. They had a mess hall there.

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