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LT: So at the trial, did you see when Gordon testified?

ED: Yeah.

LT: Pardon?

ED: What did you ask?

LT: Oh, when you went to the trial, even though you were not called to testify, you had a chance to observe the trial?

ED: Yeah.

LT: What do you remember about the trial?

ED: What do I remember? I remember people, the crowd of people along the wall, and I can't remember whether there was much reaction from the crowd at any time to anything anybody said. I don't... well, there could have been, definitely, but I don't remember it, I guess. It was a pretty quiet affair.

LT: What did you think when you saw Gordon testify?

ED: What did I what?

LT: What did you think when you saw Gordon testify?

ED: Saw him testify? Just that, as usual, he was doing a good job. And it wasn't too long.

LT: Do you remember what he said, what answers he gave?

ED: No, I don't. I'm sure it's in the letters or somewhere around, but I don't remember it.

LT: Now, were your parents, were your parents called to testify?

ED: No.

LT: But you were --

ED: I think they felt that these people were pretty well-liked by the crowd, and there was no point in putting them up. So that's why they probably didn't call them. I don't know how many -- excuse me -- how many there were that they actually called from Gordy's side of the court. I could probably name some names, but I don't remember how many.

LT: What names do you recall?

ED: Well, two or three ministers whose names I'm not recalling. The staff at the Y, Eagleson Hall...

LT: And that's where he lived?

ED: Hmm?

LT: That's where he lived?

ED: Yes, that's right. Maybe somebody from the little restaurant downstairs, that were very supportive of him. (Narr. note: Matts & Siri ran the restaurant and hired many of the students.)

LT: And you said this is where the college students ate?

ED: What?

LT: This is the restaurant where the college students ate.

ED: Yes. Where many worked. No, that's about as much as I remember about that.

LT: You were disappointed that you weren't able to testify.

ED: Yeah, I guess I was.

LT: Eleanor, what do you think you would have said had you been up on the stand?

ED: I have to go home and see if I can see it in the papers. I'm sure that we had written down something that I should say if I was called. So there's not much point in whether I remember it or not. You should have seen it in the papers already.

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