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TI: Now when you decided to go to college, what did you think you would do with a college education? After you graduated from college, when you're in college thinking about this --

MM: What I was going to do?

TI: Yeah, what did you think you were going to do?

MM: Work in the offices, and that's what I did. I was working in the administration building for the registrar when the war broke out.

TI: Okay, so let's talk... so after you graduated, you got a job in the registrar's office. Now, why did you do that and not go back to...

MM: Hood River?

TI: ...Hood River.

MM: Oh, I went back to Hood River for a few months, and I worked for a lawyer, but they called me.

TI: The Oregon State people?

MM: Oregon State, the registrar's office, they asked me to come.

TI: Now were you working there, like, part time as a student? Or how did they know about you and want you back?

MM: My grades, I guess. Phi Kappa Phi. They didn't have Phi Beta Kappa then, I don't know whether they have now or not, but you had to go to University of Oregon to get Phi Beta Kappa. But Oregon State only had Phi Kappa Phi.

TI: So were you one of the top students at Oregon State when you were there?

MM: Luckily I was.

TI: So when you say luckily, tell me a little bit about that. I mean, how good a student were you?

MM: Oh, we had a certain grade point average. After I made the four-point, then they invited me to join.

TI: Oh, so you had a four-point grade point average?

MM: Not for the whole four, no! But for that year when they chose me for Phi Kappa Phi, I got four-point. Three-point-six, three-point-eight.

TI: For the whole time you were there? But that one year you had four-point, which is perfect. You got As...

MM: Yes, that's the year, the junior year, that they chose. I had Alpha Lambda Delta as a freshman, sophomore, that was underclass honor.

TI: And so the Oregon State people wanted you back because they knew that you were a really good student?

MM: I don't know. I don't know who suggested they call me to come. I don't know.

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