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TI: So I wanted to go back, and I'm looking at my notes, and there are a few things I wanted to follow up on.

RD: We've been all over the place.

TI: So we talked a little bit about, earlier, about Cliff Uyeda when he became JACL president. And my notes indicate that it was 1978 that he became JACL president, and at which point he appointed John Tateishi as the chair of the redress committee. And I just wanted to get your sense in terms... so it would be a couple years after you went to Cincinnati?

RD: Yes, I didn't know him until later. He was an ex-president of the JACL when I first met him.

TI: This is John?

RD: No. I met John... no, I met Cliff later. I may have shaken his hand at a reception or something, but I didn't get to know him until he was an ex-president.

TI: Okay. But I just wanted to talk a little bit about John Tateishi, who was active as the chair of the redress committee. So he was very much the face of the redress movement for the JACL.

RD: Yes, I guess I did know Cliff. Because when I had trouble getting copy out of John -- I was contracted to do a piece -- it filled a nice niche in the book From Relocation to Redress. I'm going to have to look and see when that was published. But I couldn't move him. He would say, "Next month, next month," and so I wrote a letter to Cliff and got his piece almost by return mail.

TI: So he had a lot of influence over John.

RD: Yes, there's no two ways about that.

TI: I'm trying to see when that was...

RD: Edited, but it's... it's edited so it's down at the bottom of the thing. First edition is 1986. So that would have been in '85 or '86.

TI: Which is after, pretty much after...

RD: Yes, so it is true.

TI: That you got to know Cliff more after.

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