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TI: Okay. But a little bit later on, or at some point, the government came out with a questionnaire?

WS: "No-no."

TI: Right. And question 27 and 28, they asked, one of the questions was, "Would you be willing to serve?"

WS: I said, "no-no."

TI: And so did you talk to people about that in terms of how to answer those questions? Like did you talk to your parents or any friends?

WS: No, not exactly. But I decided that I'll answer "no-no."

TI: Now how about your... at this point, were you married, or did you get married before or after the "loyalty questionnaire"?

WS: Well, see, what happened was in the camp, they said, "Those who want to sign up to go to Japan, sign up for it." Now, and so lots of people decided they wanted to go back to Japan and sign up for it. And they're the one that was sent back to Tule Lake. And that was about... when was it? I can't recall. But they sent quite a few of the people who wanted to go to Japan, they were, a whole train full was shipped over to Tule Lake. And at the same time, from the Tule Lake, some of them came back to Heart Mountain and Minidoka and such. So they exchanged quite a bit of the people now. In my case, since I said "no-no," "Then we'll ship you to Tule Lake." "Well, if that's it, I'll go with you, go around with you."

TI: This is your wife?

WS: Yeah. And my wife, they gave me a permit to go down to Twin Falls. Twin Falls, and I went to the Twin Falls... what do you call that? Anyway, their courthouse, and I got the marriage license.

TI: Okay. So let me make sure I understand this. So it was after you decided that you were gonna go to Tule Lake, then Kiyoka said that she would come with you, and that's when you got married.

WS: Yeah.

TI: I see. Did you talk to her about your decision before...

WS: Yeah.

TI: And she just wanted to go with you?

WS: Yeah.

TI: How did she answer the "loyalty questionnaire"? Do you remember what she wrote in hers? In terms of question 27 and 28, was it "yes-yes" or "no-no"?

WS: I didn't ask her that.

TI: How about your parents? What did they do?

WS: They said they'll come with me.

TI: Okay. So it was like you were kind of the leader in some ways. It was your decision that really brought the family to Tule Lake. And how about your sister? Did she also go to Tule Lake?

WS: Yes. She decided that she'll go, too.

TI: Now when the army sergeant kept asking you to join the army, to join the Military Intelligence Service, did you get angry at all at him?

WS: No.

TI: So it was just that you just said no, you just won't do it.

WS: No.

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