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TI: So let's go back. I want to find out, so how did your mother and father meet?

KT: They, he went, after he came here he went back to Japan, and then I guess the, where he was born is maybe a mile or so or less, where the villages are. The village around that area is Tsuchida, so that's where, I don't know, miai kekkon, I guess they, what you call --

TI: Like a go-between or some arranged marriage. Okay. And so the two of them come back to Auburn, and then they start having children.

KT: Yeah.

TI: So why don't you tell me about your siblings, kind of in birth order?

KT: There was an older brother named Frank Hitoshi, and there was a Takeshi.

TI: And how much older was Frank, then, than you? Like how...

KT: Frank was, must've been at least seven years older than me.

TI: Okay.

KT: And Tak, Takeshi was five years older. Then there was a Satoshi, who was three years. And Satoshi was a twin, there was a, his twin sister, Yukimi, so they were three years older than me. And then I come along, and then my, I had a sister named Mae, which is three years younger than me, and Lola, who was two years younger than Mae, and then Ben, the younger brother, I don't know, he was born in '31, I think he said, 1931.

TI: So it's be eight years, like, so another three years after Lola.

KT: Yeah.

TI: Okay. And so you're, like, right, kind of right in the middle of all these kids.

KT: Yeah.

TI: So it looks like your --

KT: I got beat up the most.

TI: [Laughs] Now why, so why would a middle child get beat up the most? I would think the youngest or the...

KT: [Laughs] Bigger brothers, you know.

TI: Because you had, what, three older brothers and one older sister? Is that...

KT: Yeah.

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