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SY: And so they came to Dominguez Hills.

NS: Dominguez Hills after that.

SY: Directly from San Francisco.

NS: Uh-huh, directly.

SY: And do you know when your first sister was born, how soon after they got married?

NS: Well, then they got married, my oldest sister got married. Gee, I really don't know when she was born.

SY: It was fairly soon after your --

NS: Yeah, right after.

SY: -- they were married. So it was your older sister and then you have an older brother.

NS: Yes. Right after that he got older brother. Mama was real busy having all those children right away. They're not even... I don't think, I think two years apart, I guess. Most of them are two years apart.

SY: And where are you in this...

NS: I'm in the middle.

SY: You're in the middle.

NS: Uh-huh. My oldest one is Fusako -- oldest one is Harold, and then Fusako, and then Richard and myself, so I'm right in the middle. And then Jimmy and Bob and Harry and Sadie. There was a sister, my sister was there, too, but she passed away, baby sister.

SY: And she was older than you or younger than you?

NS: The younger. She's next to the youngest.

SY: So of the twelve children that your mother had...

NS: Uh-huh, the nine of us lived.

SY: And the three, did they pass away in childbirth?

NS: Well, the one that was nine months was between myself and my other sister.

SY: So she was younger than you.

NS: Yeah, yeah.

SY: And she was nine months old, so you remember?

NS: Oh, yes, oh, yes. I was old enough to know.

SY: And the two others, do you know how they passed away?

NS: Miscarriage.

SY: Oh, they were both miscarriage.

NS: Miscarriage, yes. That's what Mother told me. Hayai umare, I guess that's what they call hayai umare, they were born too early or something. She said, "Hayai umare," she's always talking about, she said she lost two.

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