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AI: Well, then what happened next?

KK: Well, we were shipped to Tule Lake.

AI: By train?

KK: Yes, right, train. And as I said from a fire to a frying pan or whatever you call it because Tule Lake was another hot frying pan to me.

AI: When did you get there to Tule Lake? What months, do you recall?

KK: God, I think it was in...

AI: Late '43, maybe the fall?

KK: It wasn't cold yet so it must have been fall.

AI: And what did you find? What did you find when you got to Tule Lake?

KK: Oh, it was very desolate compared to Gila River, which was all white barracks and clean looking, it was tar paper barracks. It was ugly and inside was even more ugly and smaller. We had very small space.

AI: Your family was all still together in one space?

KK: Yeah well, my sister got married in Gila so she was in another section, but there was five of us in that one little space with that one pot belly stove. But then I got used to it and I thought it was -- we started playing baseball and football and stuff. It was kind of enjoyable, gettin' to be enjoyable, until the... when Okamoto got shot by that guard and things start to happen after that.

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