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SY: So, yeah, so as a child your experience was then you were being moved again. Is that what, how did that feel? What was that experience like?

GN: That train trip I don't really remember. I do remember going from Santa Anita to Jerome.

SY: And so, and what was the, you don't know what prompted it? You don't know?

GN: No, those things...

SY: Yeah, you were so young. And so where did you end up? Do you remember?

GN: We went to Tule Lake.

SY: Tule Lake. And then do you remember your impressions of Tule Lake when you got there?

GN: Well, I remember my parents saying that the food is not as good, there's black market going on between the administration and maybe some of the internees. And I shouldn't use the word internees because you don't want to call it internment.

SY: The other prisoners.

GN: You can call it inmates or...

SY: Right. But did, so did you feel that when you got there, that it was different?

GN: It was different, and then the camp was guarded. In fact, you could see the rifle pointing inward from the guard tower, and you had a fence and you couldn't go out, unlike Jerome.

SY: Right, and you --

GN: This was a different kind of camp.

SY: It was a different kind of camp. So talk about your experience as a young boy at Tule Lake.

GN: Well, we, we would play football a lot with the other kids.

SY: I didn't know that. So the kids really had --

GN: And we all spoke English, in spite of the fact that my parents put me into Japanese school.

SY: So you were strictly in Japanese school, no English school at all?

GN: Yes. No English school at all in Tule Lake, and so I did get behind by a couple of years, but not in math, but at least social studies and English.

SY: Right.

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