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LH: And where did you go?

FK: I, I... my understanding is we went to Lone Pine and then from there we were transferred to buses. We, I don't remember that much about the train. I remember some, I remember... I remember though looking out the windows and seeing all the telephone poles go, go flashing by. And I remember the ping, ping, ping noise at nighttime. And I don't know why that was in my mind, but I remember that. And I remember the milk cartons that were on the train, because they were these funny megaphone shaped milk cartons. And I think I might, I might remember those because they were cardboard. And I might remember them because I think we had some in camp for a while that we used to throw pencils in and I don't know whether we had some after camp that we used to throw pencils into. So I remember those. I know, and I don't remember that much about getting to Manzanar. I know Kay Nakao, who's probably about, oh, she must have been in her early twenties at that time, but she said, she remembers getting on that bus and driving through the desert, and thinking how hot it was here, on the way to Manzanar. She said she saw this place out in the distance where they were driving... that she said, she said to herself, boy I'm glad we're not going to go there... and she said the bus pulled right into the gate, and that's where we were. So, so she said that's the way it was.

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