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TI: Okay, before we go to Japan, let's go back to California. And so like 1917, 1918, let's talk about that first.

TU: Yeah, he was just a simple farm laborer.

TI: And where...

TU: In Sacramento and Placer County, I think.

TI: Good. And while your father was a farm laborer, what did your mother do?

TU: Worked with him, therefore the callused hands. [Laughs] As far as I know.

TI: Well, that and she had lots of children also, right?

TU: By the time she had me, I'm number four, and she had five, actually.

TI: So let's, before we talk about your story, let's go through your brothers and sisters. You said you were number four, who was the oldest?

TU: My brother Gene was the oldest.

TI: And he was born in 1917?

TU: 1917. And my sister Nobu, N-O-B-U, born about two years later.

TI: Okay, about 1919.

TU: And then my brother Rusty, better known as Rusty. His name is Kiyoshi, but he's better known as Rusty, he was born in 1922. And I came in 1925. And in 1928, my younger brother came.

TI: And what's your younger brother's name?

TU: Tom or Tsutomu. Japanese name is Tsutomu.

TI: Good, okay.

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