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TI: And so any adventures when you were at Minidoka, in terms of, like experiences outside of camp, anything like that that you can remember?

TK: Like in the summertime, there was a canal, irrigation canal that was fairly good size running along camp, I don't know if that was in or out of the camp area, but all I remember is that we spent quite a bit of time down there. And then we used to swim across the canal, and I think that was probably outside the camp area anyway, but we didn't do much. But then later there was a small a town, Eden, which was, I don't know, maybe four or five miles out of camp, and we used to walk there and walk into town to buy a few items and stuff and then walk back to camp, because starting about '43 or '44 I don't think the security was very tight, anyway, in the camps anymore.

TI: So it was pretty easy just to walk, walk out.

TK: Yeah, walk out. And then the, I guess the people in town, they didn't seem to care too much.

TI: How about Twin Falls? Did you ever go to Twin Falls?

TK: We, I still don't know how it is, but one of the farmers from Bainbridge, he was able to get his truck and he used to bring it into camp somehow -- I don't know how -- and there was times that if you wanted to go to Twin Falls he would take us almost to the front gate, and he kept the guards busy and we'd just sneak around, and then he would pick us up outside the gate and then went to town. And I don't know what we did, but then we'd sneak back in the same way and he'd let us out before the gate and then he'd come to the gate and he would keep the guards busy, and we used to sneak in and get back on the truck and ride back to our barracks, which was, since we were at the end of the camp and Hunt was, Minidoka was, it wasn't a square camp like Manzanar. It was skinny and long, so we had a long ways to go from the main gate to the, where we lived.

TI: So having a truck was helpful because it was, to go all the way down.

TK: It helped, yeah.

TI: So no free bus service. [Laughs]

TK: We didn't have Seattle buses, free bus. [Laughs]

TI: But so when you did go to Twin Falls, what would you do in Twin Falls? So this was a bigger town.

TK: Bigger town. I don't remember what we did in town. We didn't do much, I don't think, maybe some shopping or, mainly probably just window shopping more than anything else because I don't think we had that much money, anyway.

TI: Just to get out, walk around.

TK: Get out, yeah.

TI: Look around, come back. Okay.

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