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SK: Anyway, Matsuda, I think he did suffer quite a bit of his guilt. The third time we went to see him he agreed to write an affidavit, because -- he didn't write it -- Patsy Mink's office heard the story, and they wrote it for him. And all he did was sign. But anyway, we went for the, we went this day to make his statement, to write down his statement. The following day, the three of us again went to pick up the statement. And he read, and he says, "Yeah, I guess this is okay." So we took -- it has to be notarized. So we went to his bank at Wahiawa, not Wahiawa -- Kaimuki, and we had it notarized. And I suggested, "Hey, let's go have some coffee somewheres." So we did. You know what? Matsuda just talked and talked and talked. I think his burden just off his shoulders. Yeah. I tell you. So then I realized that all these years, he did suffer the guilt that he caused.

LK: How did his wife or family react?

SK: Well, I think she knew about it.

LK: Oh.

SK: So this is the reason she kind of encouraged him to go ahead and write the affidavit, you see.

LK: Oh.

SK: But the thing that surprised me was when she said, "My husband was a boxer before the war."

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