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LK: Bill was so thorough in his research. Couldn't believe the depth that he went to. And here he had never met my husband. And we were looking forward to coming to this reunion...

BT: Yeah, there goes my free beer. [Laughs]

LK: Yeah. And being able to meet this person who was so dynamic behind the whole thing.

SK: That's why I give Bill a lot of, a lot of credit. If it weren't for Bill, I think this project would have stopped along the way or faded away, huh? But Bill encouraged me, too. He said, "Oh, let's keep on trying. I can see him, I can talk to him, I can write a letter to him." So he had a whole slew of people to talk to. And as he said, Kobayashi said, "He's old already, and he's moving into an old-folks..."

BT: Care facility.

SK: Yeah, yeah. And all those things. So he kind of made it hard for us, too. But he persevered and did a lot of leg work. And this is why I say I credit Bill very much for this whole thing, and too, for, to Louise, too, for persevering. I'm quite sure... I have her letter saying, "Oh, Sadaichi, enough already. Let's quit." I have her letters saying, "Let's quit, because Kash is a bone-headed bugger," [Laughs] and that he says, "enough already." But after I met Bill, because he said he will help, I just kept on pushing. And I'm really happy that everything turned out nicely.

BT: The last, well, I got involved 1996, so a little over two years. But you know, at least we had a meeting of mind where we would all come... there was no dispute on what we're going to do, how we were going to do it. We would bounce things off. We were all agreed which direction we would go. So it, I don't know, well, it was almost like, even if I hadn't met Kash, felt like a family sort of a thing.

SK: Yeah. We did all this for the love of Kash, anyway. This is what I feel. All for the love of Shiro.

TI: Okay, I think we're done.

DM: Okay.

TI: Thank you.

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