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TI: So I guess one last question, I'm not sure how, how this relates, but in the same way, currently there are things going on in our world today --

JM: Yes.

TI: -- with, like suicide bombers.

JM: Yes, yes, yes.

TI: And if someone asked you, what do you think about that, or how is that different than a kamikaze, things like that, how, how would you think about that?

JM: In fact, I have never thought about that, but the other day, too, I brought that up, just like the Iran and India and everything, because they're, they're, in the paper, too, one time it says they were kamikaze bombers and thing like that. But after that I says, well, it's a different country, it's a different world, and that time and this time, it's completely different, too, so I told him, I says, I can't give him much information about that. But now they're saying it's the kamikaze bombers in Russia, Russia too, but India and all over the place.

TI: So does that make you a little uncomfortable, when, when they kind of use that term?

JM: Yeah, because going into a civilian people that has nothing to do with what they do, they go in there and then, if they carry the dynamite, they pull the button and everybody in that area will die out, and even at the car, too, if they have the bomb on the car, they go out and kill people, maybe fifty, sixty people. I says, no, no, I told him, I said, no, that's ridiculous.

TI: So is that like a, a different, different spirit than what a true kamikaze training would be in terms of it?

JM: Yeah, it's, yeah.

TI: So tell me about that. Why is that different?

JM: I think it's just, the one that they're doing now is religious. I mean, that's why, so it's complete different story, I think. Even though they're fightin' for their country, they, it's a religious country, so to me I don't know how to explain that.

TI: Well, the other thing you mentioned, too, was the civilian targets versus perhaps kamikaze, it was a more military...

JM: Yeah, military. We were in, kamikaze was in the military.

TI: Okay, good. Anything -- I'm at the end of my questions -- is there anything else that, that comes to mind that you want to talk about or say? Again, thinking of maybe Jonathan, maybe later on in his life, thinking and watching this, anything else for your other grandchildren or children in terms of something I haven't touched on yet?

JM: No, they all know now, so there's no, nothing about that. Yeah.

TI: Good. Steve, anything else?

SF: That's good.

TI: Okay. Jimmie, this was a really good interview. Thank you. Thank you very much.

JM: [Laughs] Well, I'm sorry...

TI: This was, this was amazing. Thank you.

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