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TI: The final question I have is, you've dedicated a large part of your life on the JACL and the passage of the Civil Liberties Act. When you now think about the passage and what has happened since then, do you think that we've accomplished the goals of the redress movement?

HK: Yes. I think we have, because never again the U.S. government will incarcerate a certain ethnic minority. And the reason they won't do that is because it costs them money. I don't know that the attitude, the discriminatory attitude has changed. I just heard some congressman making snide remarks in this recent hearing. And so I think they're insensitive and I don't think that's ever going to change. And I think the Sanseis and the Yonseis are going to meet the same kind of discrimination, perhaps not so overt, but then they'll be able to contend with that. But one thing they won't do, is they're not going to put anybody in incarceration center like they did the Japanese Americans. And, you know, I'd like to say that... just one thing, final thing is that, you know, in an odd way, we were the chosen ones, because I think we wrote a page in history -- U.S. history. And it was a hard way, but I think that we have really contributed to the betterment of a "more perfect union." One little sentence, not even a page, 'cause very short history. And I feel real good about that and I think that's just... and I also feel, I'm appreciative of the Sanseis and Yonseis, but I think also that I think the Sanseis and Yonseis feel proud of what the Niseis did. And that's a great feeling, because this is something I don't think at the beginning people ever thought we could ever do this, I mean, redress. Isn't that a wonderful thing that was done?

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