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Title: Fred Tadashi Shingu Interview
Narrator: Fred Tadashi Shingu
Interviewers: Tom Ikeda, Martha Nakagawa
Location: Los Angeles, California
Date: July 29, 2010
Densho ID: denshovh-sfred_2-01-0012

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TI: Before we talk about you leaving Florin, let's talk about the Florin area because it's kind of interesting that, that in this actually fairly small area, people were sent to different places. And maybe you can explain the different places that the Florin people were sent.

FS: Yeah, they took, I was saying, they took a railroad track and divided from there, the people on the west side of the railroad track, up to, like I say, up to... I forgot the name of the road, anyway. (Narr. note: Jackson Road.)

TI: It was like Grady or something? Something like that.

FS: Yeah. And all the people on the west side, west side of the railroad track, into Sacramento, into Sacramento city, there's about two, two groups over there, (Oak Park and Riverside), that call, they're the farmers, Japanese farmers. They, they put us in together with them, and part of, I think part of Placer County people, someplace around Loomis and all that, some of those people, they were thrown into our same group.

TI: And this is a group that went first --

FS: Tule Lake. That's, that's one, the Tule Lake.

TI: Okay, went to Tule Lake.

FS: And the other group, other group was other side of the railroad track and up to, I would say railroad track up to Elk Grove, Florin Road that was going east, north and south. They took that road, the people on this side, they stuck 'em into, at first they stuck 'em in Fresno Assembly Center. From there they took 'em to Jerome. And the people, north side, I mean, east side of the... Jackson, I think they called it Jackson Road before, people over there, they shipped them to Poston. That group was from, they called Taishoku group and Mayhew, and I think there's a part of Perkins on, out on outskirts of Sacramento, Perkins, I think they were all together and shipped into Poston. And then the other group from... forget the name of the street now. Anyway, the other group was, they divided another road and then everybody that was on the south side, no... yeah, south side and probably a little bit of the west side, quite a bit of the east side of the whatchamacall, they were shipped to Manzanar.

TI: So in a relatively small area, there were eventually ended up in Tule Lake, Jerome, Poston and Manzanar.

FS: Yeah.

TI: Do you have any sense why that, your community, Florin, was divided?

FS: We didn't know why. Maybe they didn't want everybody all together, the whole group together, 'cause it would've been a big group because all the farmers, they were pretty big, pretty good group.

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