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TI: And so then, so during all this you, you marry Barbara, a Chinese American. Was there any issues, sort of, for you to marry a Chinese American?

TH: Well, that was kind of (...) early in the game. We sort of joke about it because when we got married, 'cause there was concern in the (reactions of our families). Her side of the family had some concerns and my side of the family did, too. But we said no, we're gonna get married, and so finally they said alright, they wouldn't impede (our marriage). So when we had our wedding we sort of joke and say we had my side of the family on the left side of the church and her family's on the right side and all our Caucasian friends sat in between. [Laughs] And all during (my life) I generally dressed very casually, no tie or anything, and so the comment from some of the professors at UCLA, said, "Well, that was the first time I saw him with a tie on." [Laughs]

TI: That's good.

JG: Did you, when you were courting, did the issue of your imprisonment... I mean, how did that come up in your relationship? When did you tell her?

TH: Yeah, so I guess when we got to a point (...) we got serious about this (...), I told her. And she was not upset or anything like that. The thing that surprised me was many people that I talked to and then they find out that I was imprisoned and I was a resister, I got very positive feedback. I guess especially 1960s... at that time got real positive feedback when they find out about (my past). I guess, maybe the fact that I was a con, or an ex-con, that might be shocking to some people, but then when they (...) really find the story behind it, then I get positive responses. In fact, many of the people says, "(Yes), I would've done the same thing if I were in the same situation." But the fact that we took that stand, (...) those that volunteered (or were drafted), that's the other side of the story. So I think that we shouldn't forget about them.

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