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MN: But after you quit, you got married.

TN: Huh?

MN: After you quit, you got married.

TN: Yes.

MN: And at that time, how did you meet your wife? How did you meet Tsuru Matsuda?

TN: My cousin's sister was imperial party, and sister no husband was big supervising, and he knows lot of people. And he was in the camp, he knows some people, and one of the group, and he knows my wife here. Introduced me, tell me to come down, tag along. [Laughs]

MN: But you didn't tell her you didn't have a job.

TN: No. I can't. Her father, mother, you know... without a job person, I don't think they'd like it. So I keep my mouth shut.

MN: How did you pay for the wedding?

TN: Huh?

MN: How did you pay for the wedding?

TN: I had it. I had, at that time, when I quit and everything, I think four or five thousand dollars. So I still have all the receipts: ring, party, wedding picture, everything is paid. So I had enough, saved that up.

MN: So when you use your saving for your wedding, then what kind of job did you get after that?

TN: Then my brother was saying he wanted to, me to become a gardener. But I thought, no, gardener. And I looked, come to see here, I thought, oh, this is open place, and seemed like a more forward country. So I thought, I decided to come here.

MN: To Orange County.

TN: Yes. I moved everything, all the tools. Even I was using in the barn... I still have here. Shovel, fork, hay pitching, still I have here. [Laughs] It's about seventy years now.

MN: It's antique. After you married your wife, or before you married your wife, did you tell her about your military protest?

TN: For a while, I didn't tell. I didn't tell nobody. Because complicated, you know, very complicated. Lot of people don't understand. Just one word, you can't finish, pretty deep, this kind of thing. So no use to tell until time's come, I know time's come. Just like Paul say, "How come?" But I wait and wait until last.

MN: What did your wife say when you told her that you were in prison?

TN: Oh, she didn't say much. I don't tell my daughter either. No one. No one, even her.

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