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MN: Now, you mentioned there was this Japanese grocery store on Imperial and Wilmington.

HY: Yeah. That was... do you remember "Tokyo Rose"? They used to, their family used to have a store there. And when we were kids, we used to go to buy candy from 'em.

MN: Do you remember Iva Toguri?

HY: Yes.

MN: You do?

HY: Yeah, I remember her real good.

MN: What was she like?

HY: I think at that time she was going to UCLA, and very nice. Very nice.

MN: What did you think about the trial, when she was tried for treason?

HY: I thought they were using her. They used her. I don't think she was trying to commit treason and all that like that reporter said, you know. I forgot his name, with that cap on. But I guess later on, what was that president?

MN: JACL?

HY: No, no, United States President after... what was his name that...

MN: That pardoned her?

HY: Yeah.

MN: I don't remember which President pardoned her.

HY: Who was that President who was kicked out?

MN: Nixon?

HY: Nixon, yeah. After Nixon.

MN: Ford.

HY: Oh, Gerald Ford. Yeah, he, I think, gave her a pardon. Yeah, Gerald Ford.

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