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TI: So let's go back to where you, so you were picked up, and where did they take you initially?

JT: What was that?

TI: So when you had to leave the area, where did they take you initially? From Gridley, where did you go?

JT: We got on the train, and a couple days later we were in Tule Lake. We didn't go to no assembly center; we went from Gridley to a concentration camp, that was it.

TI: And, yeah, because you said, sort of, July. So that's a lot later than... like up in the Northwest, I know people were leaving as early as March.

JT: We were probably, by the time we got up there, I think Marysville came in one day later than we did. So I think they might have been the last persons, last people to evacuate. We were darn close to the end then, maybe we were next to last. So it was just that we didn't go to any assembly center or anything, we went from where you lived to Tule Lake.

TI: And in terms of timing, it's interesting how you had to leave, like, a week before you would start to harvest. During that time, the months before, was there a sense that you would have, be able to harvest your crop?

JT: Well, you know, if we knew that we was gonna have to leave before we harvest, we would have probably made a deal with somebody else to lease the land to somebody else. But we figured that we was going to be able to harvest our crop before we had to leave. We knew we had to leave, but it was just a matter of when.

TI: And do you think you maybe were misled about that?

JT: No, I don't think so. I think it was just wistful thinking that we're gonna still be around 'til the crop's harvested.

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