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TI: So within the family, even within the family, there wasn't that much discussion, that this was really something that you personally kind of formed your own thoughts?

SM: But like my brothers and I, well, my younger brother, he had no choice, because he was underage. And I guess as for my other brother and I, we were just, just plum against the government.

TI: And how about your mother? Did you have any discussions with your mother or correspondence with your father about this issue?

SM: Yeah, well, my father was very, you know, against what... when they were taken into custody and all that.

TI: And so was he able to communicate that? You said he was taken to a Department of Justice internment camp, and he was able to correspond...

SM: Well, I don't remember exactly how long it was, but he was sent to Manzanar from Bismarck.

TI: Okay, so...

SM: And then that's where we decided, when the questionnaire came up, then after that, we were sent to Tule Lake.

SM: Okay, so your father was back. So as a family, you would go.

TI: Do you recall any conflicts or tension between, say, your parents and your, the fact that your sister and her husband were not going to go to Tule Lake.

SM: Well, no, we didn't have hardly any conflict. We just... they wanted to do their thing, and we were gonna do our thing.

BT: So your sister married a Terminal Islander, Amos Hashimoto, right?

SM: Yeah, uh-huh.

BT: And so your parents were probably pleased with the marriage?

SM: Yeah, sure.

BT: And Amos was the one you were hiking up in the mountains with.

SM: Yeah, yeah. Well, see, Amos I've known ever since I was a kid. We used to be neighbors on Terminal Island. And at that time, Amos and my sister, they knew of each other, but I don't think they even talked. But when they went to camp, we were neighbors again. And that's when they got together. I mean, I don't know. [Laughs]

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